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This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here— discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. A light green header appears under each daily section – it includes transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day. You can discuss ITN candidates under the header.

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Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Headers

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page.
  3. Tell about problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible.

Please do not...

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  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please elaborate yourself.
  2. Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with the recurring items criteria. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
  • Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

Archives

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Archives of posted stories: Wikipedia:In the news/Posted/Archives

Sections

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This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.


November 17

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November 16

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2025 MotoGP World Championship

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Proposed image
Article: 2025 MotoGP World Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In motor racing, Marc Márquez (pictured) win the MotoGP World Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Auto Hebdo of 1
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Renominate this article since the MotoGP season was ended. 𝗠𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗹𝗷𝗮𝘆𝗮𝟲𝟳 (talk). 01:39, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Barbara R. Hatton

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Article: Barbara R. Hatton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Legacy.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Died on 3 November. Death reported 16 November. Coqui002 (talk) 00:56, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 15

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RD: Franklin Sonn

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Article: Franklin Sonn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SABC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: South African educator, businessman, and diplomat. Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:55, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 14

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RD: Rachel Cooke

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Article: Rachel Cooke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Observer
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British journalist and author. Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:04, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Todd Snider

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Article: Todd Snider (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News/AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Country singer wizzito | say hello! 22:17, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Ready) RD: Kenny Easley

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Article: Kenny Easley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American football player. Article is a GA. Onegreatjoke (talk) 19:27, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Alice Wong

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Article: Alice Wong (activist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American disability activist and writer. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:25, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support article looks good enough to be posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:41, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sharna Fernandez

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Article: Sharna Fernandez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): IOL, SABC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former banker-turned-politician-turned-real estate agent.  Lefcentreright  Discuss  14:37, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Roger Burrows

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Article: Roger Burrows (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Former DA KZN leader Roger Burrows dies – News24, 'A stalwart of our party': DA mourns Roger Burrows – IOL
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former South African politician, member of parliament and the provincial legislature.  Lefcentreright  Discuss  11:38, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Kamini Kaushal

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Article: Kamini Kaushal (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Zee News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Veteran Indian actress. ~2025-33738-44 (talk) 07:54, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: John Beam

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Article: John Beam (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Shot and killed. Suspected perp arrested. Article still needs work. Preliminary check reveals that the subject is notable. Bremps... 01:08, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I am not sure if the subject is actually notable, but that is not to be decided here. Seems to me to be a run-of-the-mill coach. Natg 19 (talk) 01:12, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Talk:John Beam. Bremps... 03:19, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article still has the "{{Amfoot-coach-stub}}" content on it, but its content has been slightly expanded, though. ~2025-33408-48 (talk) 03:21, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Stephen Corey Bryant

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Article: Stephen Corey Bryant (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today, CBS News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Was executed at 6:00 p.m. today. EF5 23:35, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what's going on with the template. EF5 23:36, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed. The 'nominator' parameter should only have your username, instead of a signature. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 23:48, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Breaking Rust

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Proposed image
AI-generated image which represents the singer
Article: Breaking Rust (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An AI-generated singer tops Billboard's Country Digital Song Sales chart. (Post)
News source(s): ABC, EuroNews, Guardian, SF Chronicle, The Times
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: "There lies a steel-driving man, Lord, Lord, There lies a steel-driving man!" Andrew🐉(talk) 20:04, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Have we posted things like this before? (or in the last 2-3 years) Not sure if we should post a charting single at ITN. I get that the "hook" is that this is AI-generated, but that seems more like a "fun fact".
This seems more appropriate for DYK - which it actually qualifies for(!) as the article was created on Nov 11. Natg 19 (talk) 20:13, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand it, this is a first and seems significant in showing the impact of AI on the creative arts. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:26, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - LLMs are just tools, and are incapable of independent creative work. We don't post when songs produced without this assistance top the charts, so why should we post when this one does? GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for very obvious reasons. Scuba 20:53, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Computer generated vocalists are nothing new (e.g. Hatsune Miku), as are tools that can automatically generate songs on a computer. All that's different here is that it's using the hot buzzword in tech at the moment. As others have mentioned this would be much better suited for DYK. PolarManne (talk) 21:21, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose It's worth noting that the song reached the top of the Country Digital Song Sales Billboard chart (note the link is a redirect, and how the target doesn't appear there), one of four Country charts Billboard tracks. It's also conceivable much of this was driven by the fact people heard about the slop and rushed to "check it out" as it were--this does not equate to an equal ranking on Billboard's Hot Country Songs ranking. Slop is slop. There's multiple genocides going on right now and I simply can't come to equate people streaming slop digitally to ITN's globalistic and impact-driven standards. Departure– (talk) 22:47, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose If we this were the "Music In the News" section then this'd be good but as of now we don't even cover when massive albums release and break records. Stupid country listeners enjoying slop is hardly news. TheFellaVB (talk) 22:48, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose Merely because I think that "Country Digital sales" is a bit of a weak metric. If an AI-generated song were a proper #1 It'd be a different story.–DMartin 23:03, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Saalumarada Thimmakka

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Article: Saalumarada Thimmakka (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian environmentalist. Srf123 (talk) 17:32, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article seems to be in good enough shaped and well sourced, although I feel like her career and achievements sections could be expanded a little more, currently a third of the article is for the "Alleged misuse of name" section. TheFellaVB (talk) 22:50, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Summer Deaflympics

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Article: 2025 Summer Deaflympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 25th Summer Deaflympics officially opens in Japan on 15 November (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Japan officially inaugurates the 25th Summer Deaflympics in Tokyo on 15 November
Alternative blurb II: International Committee of Sports for the Deaf unveils the opening ceremony of the 2025 Summer Deaflympics on on 15 November
News source(s): Olympics, The Mainichi
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This is the Olympics for the deaf. Since Japan sits in the Pacific Ring of Fire and considered to be the land of rising sun as the time has hit past 12 am in Japan local time, so posting it under 14 November nominations, although the date in Japan has gone past 14 November. File:2025 Summer Deaflympics.png Abishe (talk) 16:22, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - I count over 150 red links in the target article. And one of the two sources is not independent. I see no description of the opening in Tokyo, and no independent sources about the games in the article that aren't near a year old! Nfitz (talk) 01:56, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose sadly I don't think this will be notable enough to warrant blurbing, considering that we have never blurbed any of the previous disability-related sport competition bar Paralympics. NotKringe (talk) 03:29, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Attention needed) BHP liable over the Mariana dam disaster

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Article: Mariana dam disaster (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: High Court of Justice in England rules BHP liable for the 2015 Samarco dam disaster (damage pictured) in Mariana, Minas Gerais, Brazil. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian Reuters Al Jazeera G1
Credits:

Nominator's comments: About 600,000 people seeking compensation (including myself) awaited the decision. By the way, I personally met with Thomas Goodhead at a local visit to my city and he said the repercussions of the decision would be international. ArionStar (talk) 14:11, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment In a case like this, the significance is going to be how much in damages they will have to pay, as currently plaintiffs are seeking 36 billion GBP. If the penalty remains at that size when it is decided in the second trial, that might be reason to post. If they get away with anything less than a billion, its a slap on the wrist. Masem (t) 16:43, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Flu decimates elephant seals

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Article: Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A strain of influenza H5N1 decimates populations of elephant seals (pictured) and other mammals. (Post)
News source(s): BBC; El Pais; NYT;
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: I don't usually bother to get a flu jab but am reconsidering as there's a lot of it about and I see that humans are on the list too! But the NHS is worried more about H3N2 so I'm confused. Why don't we have an article about the 2025 flu season yet? It seems like there's work to do...

(later) ... I'm usually prepared to leap in and start bold editing but there's a lot to digest here. The elephant seals seem to have been hit hard in 2023 and the current news seems due to a study of the subsequent impact. The human flu season is just taking off in the UK. Australia had a tough season in its winter but they were affected by a different strain from what's now worrying the UK. I'm not sure how it's going in the US but I suppose that RFK and the decimation of US health agencies hasn't helped. I tried asking Gemini for a summary of the strain situation in the UK and it gave me a long answer with good sources but it's quite complex and not easy to summarise. Hmm... Andrew🐉(talk) 12:39, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Not a current event. Deaths took place in 2022-2023 and the study cited was released in Sep 2025. User:WoodElf 15:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure which study you're talking about but the coverage in El Pais and the New York Times was triggered by this study published yesterday: Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza Viruses (HPAIV) Associated with Major Southern Elephant Seal Decline. The BBC report was published on 6 Nov and seems based on research mainly in Argentina but cites lots of other papers. My point is that we have a wave of coverage in the news now. Peer-reviewed science takes time to reach the press ... Andrew🐉(talk) 16:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose If seals could write ... but they can't and the human researchers are off by about 2 years here. If these news reports were about an ongoing pandemic maybe we could feature it but this is stale by all standards. PS: Gemini is the worst of the lot when it comes to LLMs (annoying to get a taste of with almost every Google search now, and pizza glue anyone), so I wouldn't bother with it. Gotitbro (talk) 16:17, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Michèle Audin

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Article: Michèle Audin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): femmes et maths L'Humanite
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: French professor of mathematics and writer. Female academic. Member of Oulipo. Secretlondon (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Needs sources for some of her mathematics research. Cannot find an English language death notice. Secretlondon (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Diego Causero

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Article: Diego Causero (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Vatican News in Czech
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Italian Vatican diplomat. Head of mission in various countries. Secretlondon (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dan McGrath

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Article: Dan McGrath (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American television writer, won an Emmy for his work on The Simpsons. Citations are missing. -Brainulator9 (TALK) 01:18, 17 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 13

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(Ready) RD: Juan Ponce Enrile

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Article: Juan Ponce Enrile (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Rappler, Rolling Stone Philippines
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chief Presidential Legal Counsel of the Philippines, the Martial law implementor and former Senate President of the Philippines  ROY is WAR Talk! 09:56, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 27th Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan

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Article: 27th Amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: An amendment to the Constitution of Pakistan creates a new court of final appeal and establishes the position of Chief of Defence Forces, strengthening military rule. (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article is not in a good state and does not state all of the things in the blurb. Needs updating. NY Times article notes a massive overhaul of Pakistan's legal structure. Bremps... 16:58, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Please do not... Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one." - from the top of this page. 'Too domestic' is exactly that. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:52, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as too domestic. I doubt we'd blurb similar for any other country, Anglosphere or not. The Kip (contribs) 17:51, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We blurbed the overturning of Roe, the US government shutdown, the Kirk and Minnesota legislator shootings, and even outside the US the Bougainville independence referendum, the last Northern Irish election, and Mexico's judicial reform last year. We're not allergic to domestic. Bremps... 18:00, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I don’t think I voted on Roe as I wasn’t as active here at that time, but I voted against the Minnesota shootings and iirc the Kirk shooting as well. The Kip (contribs) 21:11, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Just reading the article the Amendment it seams it will have quite the impact on the judicial system Otto (talk) 18:29, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - likely to be the most notable single event in Pakistan’s ongoing transition from civilian-military hybrid regime back to something closer to a military dictatorship. Pakistan is one of the most populous and powerful (nuclear weapons) countries in the world. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 21:51, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per both. 2600 etc (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as this is a very clear sign of democratic backsliding within Pakistan. Also I don't think this is "too domestic", given the fairly clear and likely major impact this amendment will have, and many other more "domestic" things have been posted, as Bremps said. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 23:15, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – We posted the failure of the Australian Voice referendum. A successful constitutional change seems at least as notable. 5225C (talk • contributions) 04:40, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I think the blurb needs to be a bit more direct on what the impacts are. This is not just a new court but as implied, gives the military a much stronger role in the govt, as I read the NYtimes article on this. Worded as is, it seems very inconsequential, so the blurb should be stronger as to why this was significant. Masem (t) 04:57, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a selection of headlines which seem clearer:
Those medals include the Tamgha-e-Baqa (Nuclear Test Medal); Tamgha-e-Istaqlal (Escalation with India Medal); and the Jamhuriat Tamgha (Democracy Medal)!
  1. Pakistan assembly votes to give strongman Asim Munir lifetime legal immunity
  2. Asim Munir is taking Pakistan Army to 7th-century Arabia
  3. Trump's "Favourite Field Marshal" Asim Munir Gains More Powers
  4. ‘Funeral for democracy’: Pakistan parliament grants lifelong immunity and sweeping powers to army chief Munir
  5. ‘Trump’s favourite Field Marshal’: Asim Munir’s rise as Pakistan’s 'real ruler'
Just think about what such legal immunity means – lifetime despotic power. Like Trump said, "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody..."
Andrew🐉(talk) 11:06, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not questioning what sources are saying to that though the article could be stronger, but definitely the nominated blurb downplays that. Masem (t) 12:59, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We live in a world where the Financial Times is "not a major newspaper". Howard the Duck (talk) 12:09, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Financial Times is not calling Munir the "real ruler" or talking about a "funeral for democracy". Big differences. Is just talking about a lifetime legal immunity which does not necessarily represent a democratic disorder. _-_Alsor (talk) 12:25, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A head of state having legal immunity while in office is rather normal; someone having lifetime legal immunity is very rare and no self proclaiming democratic country does that. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:56, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Some Euorpean monarchs have legal immmunity even after their abdication. _-_Alsor (talk) 16:30, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I recommend more folks also take a look at the state of the article in addition to notability. Bremps... 13:49, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not relevant on an international scale in any sense. Even if this was something in the US for example (eg. packing the SCOTUS bench, or a hypothetical bill dis-establishing SCOTUS or somethign of that nature) I would still oppose as not being notable. Democratic backsliding and militarization does not merit posting to ITN unless the chief executive (Prime minister) gets removed or changed, in my view., and also feels like WP: CRYSTALBALL violations. Not internationally, intellectually, nor morally time-sensitive enough to merit posting. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 19:19, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose we don't post every single constitutional amendment around the world, why should we give special treatment to Pakistan? Scuba 20:54, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe because not all constitutional amendments are of equal significance...? Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 23:28, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
note it was signed into law on the 13th, not the 12th.Psephguru (talk) 18:53, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted as there is rough consensus to do so. There has been some discussion about making the blurb clearer regarding the consequences of this constitutional change, and I sympathise with that. The current blurb is wordy and only gets to the point late in the piece. Suggestions for alt blurbs, and the related discussion, would be welcome. Schwede66 03:27, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull for the following reasons:
  1. There isn't a consensus as there were six opposes and this makes seven.
  2. The topic is contentious per WP:CT/SA and so special caution is expected – not "rough" treatment
  3. It's not just the blurb that needs work. As noted above, the coverage indicates that the main effect of this is to empower Asim Munir as a military dictator, commanding all the armed forces and being above the law for life. For another example, see the NYT report which leads with a big picture of him. But the bold article doesn't even mention him once – a remarkable level of obfuscation which seems deceptive.
Andrew🐉(talk) 08:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull/oppose on quality for the reasons noted by Andrew. The article currently doesn't mention the implications of democratic backsliding and how exactly military rule is being strengthened, and the lead section doesn't make the significance of the amendment clear. 9ninety (talk) 18:10, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Might it be easier for those asking for a "pull" to simply edit the article and add a mention of Asim Munir, rather than go through the entire bureaucratic process of pulling this story, and for it to likely not get reposted though it deserves to be up (as often is the case for pulled stories)? I don't see how this is a "quality" concern; the article is in good quality, though more can be done to improve it. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ) 19:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 12

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(Needs reviews) RD: Jim Avila

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Article: Jim Avila (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Journalist for ABC News wizzito | say hello! 22:25, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Dylan (dog)

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Article: Dylan (dog) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Clarin
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former President of Argentina Alberto Fernández's dog. Article is short but cover's Dylan's life with sufficent detail and quality. --The Robot Parade 06:34, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) US Government shutdown ends

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Article: 2025 United States federal government shutdown (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States federal government shutdown ends after 44 days. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United States federal government re-opens after a record 44-day shutdown.
News source(s): AP
Credits:
Nominator's comments: roll off the blurb currently up with this. 1brianm7 (talk) 04:34, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alter current blurb Just alter the current blurb to the wording of the main blurb supplied here. Similarly to how we update death tolls etc.Basetornado (talk) 05:09, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update Rather than posting it at the top and rolling off the current one. While some case could be made for a "govt. shutdown" (record breaking etc.), the end of it isn't inherently notable. Updating the extant blurb suffices. Gotitbro (talk) 05:38, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose Any new blurb, since the previous one has rolled off now. Gotitbro (talk) 11:12, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull The article has been orange-tagged for several days now. I pointed this out in the ongoing nomination below and nothing was done. It therefore seems clear that the article is unable to maintain the level of quality required by ITN. As the shutdown seems to be in abeyance for the holiday season, we should give a rest. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:20, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pull the current blurb for the shutdown has been updated, so this is just redundant. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 08:22, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: if we hadn't just posted this same story a few days ago, I would support doing so now. However I don't think this justifies two blurbs in as many weeks. An update to an existing blurb would make more sense, but the old one has been pulled due to article quality issues. If/when those are fixed, I would support restoring the blurb to the template with updated wording, but not at the top as a new story. Modest Genius talk 11:56, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and close The blurb was already updated. The discussion is now unnecessary. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:58, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Last US penny

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Article: Penny debate in the United States (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Philadelphia Mint produces the last United States penny (pictured), ending over 230 years of production. (Post)
News source(s): Press Release, AP, New York Times, The Guardian
Credits:
Nominator's comments: The last penny ever to be created was pressed at the US mint today. Article needs some major updating but I think it's possible. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 23:52, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose while it's kinda neat, it likely won't have much effect especially since the old pennies are still in circulation. Even if they weren't, it'd still just be a bit of neat trivia. Gaismagorm (talk) 11:41, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose trivial and irrelevant for ITN and outside the US. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:55, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) US shutdown -- kicking the can

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Article: 2025 United States federal government shutdown (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: We currently have a blurb for the US shutdown but events have moved on with a deal being done in the US Senate. And the article currently has an orange tag so something needs to be done. The article seems to need updating and there will be further developments as and when the House votes on it. To handle this ongoing situation, I suggest that the item be moved from blurb to ITN's ongoing section. That way, we won't have to worry about tweaking the blurb to keep up with the latest moves. The deal only buys an extension until January and so it may still be ongoing then too. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:07, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support A government shutdown this long in the worlds third largest country by population, largest by economy, and watched all over the world politically is unheard of, then we should not be moving goalposts by saying this is America-centric. Lukt64 (talk) 17:06, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(New) RD: Carmen Moreno (singer)

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Article: Carmen Moreno (singer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Polskie Radio
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pioneering Polish jazz vocalist, had no article yet, unbelievable. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Article quality is sufficient. QuicoleJR (talk) 13:16, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Any REF & footnote for the date of birth, please? Looking for such a sentence in the main prose. The info is the infobox without a source. The intro has only a single sentence and thus, {{lead too short}} applies. Is "Swinging Queen of Polish Jazz" a quote from some source? This could use some elaboration in the main prose with a footnote or two. --PFHLai (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    PFHLai, I copied the date to the body where the reference already was, and repeated that same ref to the quote in the lead. Polish articles have only one sentence for a lead. Before I get to writing more, I would like to see progress for two articles nominated for 10 November, and need to improve one to come for that day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 16 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Pulled) 2025 Iraqi parliamentary election

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Article: 2025 Iraqi parliamentary election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Reconstruction and Development Coalition, led by Prime Minister Mohammed Shia' al-Sudani (pictured), places first in the Iraqi parliamentary election. (Post)
News source(s): [3], [4]
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 PtolemyXV (talk) 17:41, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I am not sure if this is ready. I share Alsor's concerns that there are tables with missing data (2025_Iraqi_parliamentary_election#Results_by_province). Natg 19 (talk) 18:46, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How are the results ready? The tables are incomplete with percentage of votes and number of seats empty. Natg 19 (talk) 19:54, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
National Results looks ready, only the regional sections are empty. Shadow4dark (talk) 20:10, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Attention needed) 2025 Turkish Air Force Lockheed C-130 crash

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Article: 2025 Turkish Air Force Lockheed C-130 crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A Turkish Air Force C-130 Hercules cargo plane crashes near the Azerbaijan–Georgia border, killing all twenty people on board. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A Turkish Air Force C-130 Hercules breaks up inflight near the Azerbaijan–Georgia border, killing all twenty people on board.
News source(s): CBS
Credits:

Nominator's comments: I'm surprised no one has nominated this one yet. ArionStar (talk) 13:27, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 IBM Airlines Boeing 737 incident was covered by the ongoing Sudanese civil war (2023–present); the American one (with 14 deaths) was posted. ArionStar (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose this is not disasterpedia. Therefore, we cannot include any aircraft accidents, whether civil or military. If there is not an overwhelming number of fatalities, IMHO, it is not ITN-worthy. _-_Alsor (talk) 20:35, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How much would it be considered as "overwhelming number of fatalities"? ArionStar (talk) 20:39, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If is a civil aircraft, and as several editors have commented several times before, around 100 victims and, if fewer, the circumstances or those involved must be exceptional. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:18, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Already commented my support, but I feel that the circumstances of this one are exceptional. It's an inflight breakup with video showing the plane still largely intact but in pieces as it falls. That's not really common.Basetornado (talk) 02:14, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support While I do agree with the comments saying we don't post military crashes normally. I feel this is notable for what happened, rather than it just being a military crash. This doesn't appear to be pilot error or they got lost etc. The plane broke up in mid-air and there's video of the seperated fuselage with wings attached falling, while the cockpit section is also falling. It doesn't appear to be a "run of the mill" crash so to speak.Basetornado (talk) 02:07, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Altblurb Added an altblurb that shows why it's notable. Again, not just a crash, but a midair break up. Happy for it to be edited etc if someone has better wording to show that fact.Basetornado (talk) 02:18, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Cleto Escobedo III

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Article: Cleto Escobedo III (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Staff, T. M. Z. (2025-11-11). "Jimmy Kimmel's Band Leader Cleto of Cleto and the Cletones Dead". TMZ. Retrieved 2025-11-11., Moore, Julia; Esquibias, Liza (November 11, 2025). "Jimmy Kimmel's Lifelong Friend and 'Jimmy Kimmel Live!' Band Leader Cleto Escobedo Dies at 59: 'We Are Heartbroken'". People.com.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Jimmy Kimmel's bandleader. No separate article for the person as of now, but the article on the band has a substantial focus on the person. BD2412 T 22:06, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Islamabad suicide bombing

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Article: 2025 Islamabad suicide bombing (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A suicide bombing kills twelve in Islamabad. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A suicide bombing attack kills twelve outside the District Judicial Complex in Islamabad, Pakistan.
News source(s): Dawn, The Hindu, New York Times, The Straits Times, Al Jazeera
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Major news, not to be confused with India attack. Article still in state of updating. Top minister stated Pakistan was in a "state of war". Bremps... 20:05, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This does not seem like a valid oppose rationale to me. If you don't like the current blurb, you can always write an alternate one. Natg 19 (talk) 21:13, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't seem fair. Next time you should propose an altblurb instead of opposing the topic outright.–DMartin 21:20, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, opposing because of writing? Not fair. CoryGlee 21:33, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've already been warned exactly because of this reason; I'm avoiding editing blurbs since a user requested a topic ban against me last time. ArionStar (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No one should be requesting any bans or sending warnings if you're just making an altburb, unless you're editing pre-exisiting ones which I don't think you should be doing unless you're just updating info. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 23:30, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Most listed incidents in 2025 also seem to be targeting army forces and largely happening in Balochistan so the attack's circumstances do seem somewhat out of the ordinary. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 23:39, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Micheal Ray Richardson

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Article: Micheal Ray Richardson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Still needs some work. Natg 19 (talk) 20:03, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support article has been improved and is now sufficiently cited. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 15:54, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD (blurb discussion closed): Sally Kirkland

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Article: Sally Kirkland (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American actress Sally Kirkland dies at 84. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Oscar-nominated American actress Sally Kirkland dies at 84.
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Not ready due to missing citations. 2600 etc (talk) 16:07, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've been waiting for the numbers to see how she compares with the other recent veteran actresses and, for the record, here they are. She's at the low end, comparable with the weak performance of James Watson, who all the other actresses managed to beat. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:50, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) BBC redux

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Article: 2025 BBC editorial bias controversy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The BBC's Director-General Tim Davie (pictured) resigns over allegations of bias, while its chair, Samir Shah, makes a statement to parliament. (Post)
News source(s): UK front pages, Bloomberg, Reuters, NYT, Al Jazeera, AFR, NZ Herald, South China Morning Post
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Yesterday, the main complaint was that there wasn't an article about the matter but now there is. It was all over the front pages in the UK and there is continuing coverage across the world as there are further developments with many describing this as an existential crisis for the BBC. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:50, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, trumped-up bullshit. Abductive (reasoning) 08:56, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Although there are headlines about resignations and apologies and suchlike, that's really just a news-ticker type of story and not something that itself rises to the level of WP:ITNSIGNIF. There are long-term questions about how the BBC operates in the modern world, where political division permeates deeply, and articles such as [5] present this saga in a very different way from the narrative in the Daily Telegraph. But those are long-term questions and this week's events are only one symptom of that long-running saga, not a major transformative development in themselves.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:05, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Procedural snow close. There was extensive opposition for reasons clearly beyond no article (including precedential) by multiple editors for this to be re-opened. Gotitbro (talk) 09:12, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We just did this. There's an article now, but it reads like a hatchet job on the BBC and needs fixing quite badly. For example there's a sentence Additionally, the BBC was criticised for its coverage of extremist contributors, particularly on BBC Arabic, with concerns raised about biased coverage in relation to the Israel-Hamas conflict. which is sourced to the Telegraph ... who were the ones doing the criticising. Please attribute stuff like this, it doesn't reflect well as regards NPOV. Black Kite (talk) 09:29, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It's effectively a political hit job to keep conservatives happy. They resigned because of an edit in a show 4 years ago. It has been in the news, I can agree on that. But it's all just a political hit job, rather than anything meaningful.Basetornado (talk) 11:51, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding is that Tim Davie is a conservative appointment and so the current socialist government is content to see him go so that they can influence the choice of successor. It appears that he's a scapegoat for a bundle of issues in which the BBC's centrist ethos naturally gets attacked by extremists of all sorts. Its main problem seems to be that the management is weak in handling egotistical "talent" and so tends to be accident-prone. Anyway, whatever the details, you fail to explain why we shouldn't report them, given the level of widespread coverage. If it's a hit job, why isn't that something we should report and explain? Andrew🐉(talk) 12:20, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the reasons for the removal of the DG are that convoluted, all the more
evidence the initial rationale further looses significance. I simply don't see we or the media would even have been discussing this "scandal" if it didn't involve WP:NTRUMP stuff. Gotitbro (talk) 13:27, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Apropos of nothing, but did you just describe this government as "socialist", Andrew? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised about anything these days, but ... er ... really? Black Kite (talk) 14:09, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and snow close Borrowing the words of Black Kite from the last nomination: The programme in question wasn't actually produced by the BBC - the scandal is that they didn't fact-check it. Despite the resignations, this doesn't rise to the level of ITN. I also do not see a consensus for this to be posted forming.~2025-32416-84 (talk) 12:37, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Opposition to the last nom and this one are either 1) this isn’t significant or 2) this is a bone being thrown to conservatives to keep them happy. The former is clearly false, given the growing amount of coverage this is getting. The latter is POV/OR and entirely without merit. Dr Fell (talk) 12:42, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    A news story may grab headlines for days but in terms of WP and long-term significance, it may just be a burst of coverage. Scandals like this are very much stories that dont make sense for ITN to cover unless we are talking court resolution or if they occur in the govt and lead to the change of leadership. Masem (t) 13:06, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Tatsuya Nakadai

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Article: Tatsuya Nakadai (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Japan News
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Japanese actor. ~2025-32647-66 (talk) 04:05, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed, person alive) RD/Blurb: Dharmendra

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Article: Dharmendra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Indian actor and politician Dharmendra (pictured) dies at the age of 89 (Post)
News source(s): Zee News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: National Film Award-winning Indian actor known for Sholay and Hukumat. Rushtheeditor (talk) 22:54, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose RD on quality some unsourced sections, and its really weird that the Health Issues section is that high up in addition to the later Illness section. There's some general improvements that are needed overall. Oppose blurb as while the legacy section is there, its not really doing the job to establish why he was a major figure in Indian film and/or politics, and that absolutely needs strengthing to justify this. Masem (t) 05:10, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I withdraw the nomination. Rushtheeditor (talk) 05:17, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rushtheeditor: If you wish to withdraw only the blurb you can simply remove that paramater from the template. I think this can still continue as an RD nom. Gotitbro (talk) 05:40, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article is currently calling his death a hoax and is in present tense. Unless the media coverage changes, this probably can't continue as a RD nom by virtue of him being alive. 1brianm7 (talk) 05:51, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Irfan Siddiqui

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Article: Irfan Siddiqui (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 02:49, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Almost ready, writings could use more references, other than that I did not spot any glaring issues. ~2025-32416-84 (talk) 12:43, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Better than when I found it but would appreciate another pair of eyes. Removed a lot of WP:SYNTH and content that failed WP:V. Bremps... 03:24, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Arfa Sayeda Zehra

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Article: Arfa Sayeda Zehra (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): SAMAA TV
Credits:

Article updated
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 Ainty Painty (talk) 02:46, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:01, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good to go. CoryGlee 20:33, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 10

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(Posted) RD: Willi Gundlach

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Article: Willi Gundlach (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Techical University of Dortmund
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Musicologist, a pioneer of making Fanny Hensel known a a composer, educator of educators, inspiring conductor. Not much changed since I wrote the article in 2017. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 13 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Needs reviews) RD: Gisela Bock

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Article: Gisela Bock (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): FAZ
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pioneering German historian of women's history and feminist. Expanded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Stefka Evstatieva

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Article: Stefka Evstatieva (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bulgarian News Agency
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Bulgarian soprano who sang at all the major opera houses in Europe and the US, where she settled with her family for decades. Article was poor and tagged until she died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:57, 15 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Herzl Bodinger

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Article: Herzl Bodinger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ynet, Jerusalem Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former commander of the Israeli Air Force. Chomik! (talk?) 00:10, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Booker Prize

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Article: Flesh (Szalay novel) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The novel Flesh by Hungarian-British author David Szalay (pictured) is awarded the Booker Prize. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Author David Szalay is awarded the Booker Prize for his novel Flesh.
News source(s): New York Times, The Guardian, BBC
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The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: One of the most prestigious literary awards in the world. Also, this is a significant event in the arts. Golan1911 (talk) 22:34, 10 November 2025 (UTC) Golan1911[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Delhi car explosion

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Article: 2025 Delhi car explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A car explosion in Delhi kills at least 13 people. (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
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 Thriley (talk) 17:28, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, but support when finished. This is way to early and the perp is still unknown. JaxsonR (talk) 19:07, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's been four days and the perp is in the article now. Time to post it — chop chop! Einsof (talk) 23:13, 14 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on notability, oppose on quality Poorly written in areas, unsourced in others. Additionally the background section makes it appear that the discovery of explosives earlier in the day is linked. It may well be, but unless im missing something there is no link found yet.Edited: Much better now, seems to be ready to go.Basetornado (talk) 21:46, 11 November 2025 (UTC)Basetornado (talk) 01:00, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Cleaned up a lot. Will likely need more time to get further information before it's posted. Currently most reputable sources are reporting the cause is unknown, while Indian sources are jumping to it being a terror attack and claiming links etc from unnamed sources. The names thrown about as responsible are stereotypically muslim names, and it wouldn't be the first time an Indian media source jumps on that and spreads misinformation. Happy for it to be posted etc, when more info comes out, but want to be careful with such a potentially touchy subject. Basetornado (talk) 06:13, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any sources labelling it a terrorist attack outright but officially it is being investigated as such and reports link it to investigations prior in the day and week and progress on it, pretty standard media procedure. Local RS providing reportage and analysis from police investigations is not what should be labelled jumping the gun or misinfo ([6]). Though yes, official confirmation should be affirmed to not give any of this undue prominence. But highly unlikely that this is a mere mishap or not related to investigations on the same day hours earlier. Gotitbro (talk) 07:33, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It was a lot of jumping the gun and misinformation. A lot has been cleaned up. Yes it is unlikely, but when reputable sources are explicitly saying that no cause has been reported yet etc. Calling it a terror attack etc is jumping the gun. Indian media has a bad history with reporting crimes linked to muslims. I feel it's fair to be more cautious with local sources based on that history. Basetornado (talk) 07:59, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And I repeat no RS explicitly lists this as a terrorist attack even now, merely reporting on police procedure is not it. We do not label/castigate the entirety of any domestic media as unreliable, though I generally avoid/peg [as does enwiki generally] broadcast below print media. If you have identified some deliberate misinfo please take it to WP:RSN, but from what I have seen this is general fare an incident like this anywhere elsewhere and not a trace of misinformation - which is a very specific term for false info. The Hindu and Indian Express are explicitly labelled as RS at WP:RSPP (among other print sources) and have reported the same, if by "reputable sources" you only mean international wire agencies of course with limited boots on the ground they would circumscribe initial reporting to official press releases but then again RS has never been limited to these (though these news agencies also detail the terrorism investigation). Sure we can be cautious for any incident like this (the reason {{current event}} exists) but that isn't reason enough to call reportage misinfo without an evidentiary trace of it. Gotitbro (talk) 09:06, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It was being called a terror attack in Indian media broadly. That was the point. The article was also treating it as a terror attack, before reliable sources about it were known. That was the jumping and potential for misinfo. What i'm saying is that Indian media on topics very much like this, can jump to conclusions etc. Which means on topics like this, Indian media should be treated more cautiously than normally. It doesn't mean they can't be believed. Just making sure we're more careful than usual. That's all. Basetornado (talk) 10:03, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't at anytime I checked those sources and isn't now, so I dispute that. The wikivoiced edits came from a single editor here and isn't a flaw of the sources. Ultimately, {{current}} already takes care of the initial rushed reporting in these incidents. I wouldn't treat this any different (as for cautiousness and recency) from how I would treat incidents like the Kirk assassination in the US or the recent mass stabbings in the UK (despite considering the media bias in those incidents as well). Gotitbro (talk) 10:50, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed some of that editors work, which was jumping the gun and potentially misinformation. The sources I had been looking at online, quite a few of the Indian sources were calling it a terror attack. While the international sources and some Indian sources as well were making it clear that it hadn't been described as that at that point, even if that was a possibility. I also am naturally suspicious of smaller Indian sources, because of the history of Indian media with stories like this. Hence why I was calling for caution and to potentially wait, so we aren't sending it to the front page with information that is quickly shown to be false. That's all I was doing. Let this be the end of it. Basetornado (talk) 11:26, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Likely a terror attack (per the article and news reports). Article quality looks fine enough for an RD. Gotitbro (talk) 05:35, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The article is still filled with unsourced information, guesses and misinformation. One example is the lead said it was caused by ammonium nitrate, but none of the 6 sources used mention that, and instead say the cause is unknown. I changed that and am cleaning it up. But, it's not ready as is. Basetornado (talk) 05:44, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The nitrate bit wasn't there when I had a look at it nor were the preliminary reports being presented as wiki[voiced] fact (though these do indicate it being used [7]), good to see it has been reverted. Gotitbro (talk) 07:36, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The unsourced claim about ammonium nitrate was added by an IP editor 22 minutes before you commented here. This isn't a legitimate reason to claim the article is of overall low quality, since highly viewed articles always attract a churn of low-quality edits that we simply revert back to stable, sourced text. This comment should be struck. Einsof (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    At the time I said that it was of overall low quality, that was just one of the issues with it. It wasn't the only issue. It is much better now. But at the time, it was of poor quality.Basetornado (talk) 05:36, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support article looks a lot better quality wise now. LuniZunie ツ(talk) 14:31, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This page received more than 7500 page views in the last day, and therefore squarely falls within the purpose of ITN, "to help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news." The article is of decent quality. Litigating this submission to death would be a real shame, although ITNC seems to love to do that. Einsof (talk) 15:02, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That's only one if the purposes of ITN, we have to balance all four. We do not use pageviews to determine what gets posted. Note that this is not in opposition to post this blurb (it otherwise seems to be appropriate) , just that this is not an appropriate support cite. Masem (t) 15:29, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I actually cited two of the four prongs (the second being quality), and the article actually passes all four (the article is dynamically updated, and many readers outside India might not be aware of this event). Einsof (talk) 15:31, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support due to the high number of page views, a notable accident, and article is of the right quality. 2600 etc (talk) 16:20, 11 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support significant attack in the nation's capital, with casualties. Samuelled (talk) 04:44, 12 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, support when finished. Loads of irrelevant and unsourced information in the article, and the overall article doesn't yet meet fully Wikipedia standard. Some editors are driven by emotions and bias. Changes in the article is happening rapidly. Once the situation stabilises and things unfold it will be possible to draw a line. RationalPuff (talk)

(Posted) Typhoon Fung-wong

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Article: Typhoon Fung-wong (2025) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Typhoon Fung-wong hits the Philippines, killing at least 27 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Typhoon Fung-wong hits the Philippines, leaving over a million people displaced.
News source(s): BBC AP Guardian Reuters
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Nominator's comments: Strong typhoon hitting the Philippines, death toll likely to rise in the coming hours and days. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:34, 10 November 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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